And only Palestinian graves have been destroyed.

 

Perhaps they should consider cremation... This would solve a lot of problems with regards to the destruction of grave sites.

Japan has one of the highest cremation rates in the world, reporting a cremation rate of 99%

I have made plans for my own cremation upon my death. I don't want my final resting place to be cold and rotting away 6 feet deep underground.

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.....

 

Hi stumbler,The UK held the Palestine mandate since the 1920's After WW11 the Jews said they needed a home land after what Hitler did to them.Before the war rich Jews funded the Jewish settlers to buy land from the local landlords so thousands made the journey to Palestine. Ater the war the British government of the day realised that it was a event they could not stop .On one side you had the Palestinians on the other side you had the Jews who were attacking the British garrison and was killing British troops.The British army had the job also to stopping boats arriving for Cyprus with survivors of the NAZI death camp. British troops refusing to fire on them to stop them landing many troops has fought in WW11 and some had liberated the camps and did not wish to be seen like the NAZI'S.So we left and let them fight it out themselves .

 

Not quite the old league of nations asked various nations to look after the area we got Palestine the French got Syria and Lebanon after Turkey sides with Germany in WW1 and lost.We left most of our empire because the people of these country's wanted independence which we gave them like most country's in Africa and Asia all they did was to get dictatorships and Swiss Bank accounts for the corrupt leaders.

 

Bibi The Butcher never should have said the quiet part out loud. Israel has never had any intention of allowing a Palestinian state. But they have always pretended otherwise. And now Netanyahu has pulled off the mask.





Saudi Arabia's top diplomat says it won't recognize Israel without a path to a Palestinian state
MELANIE LIDMAN and WAFAA SHURAFA
Updated Mon, January 22, 2024 at 5:35 AM MST·5 min read




JERUSALEM (AP) — Saudi Arabia's top diplomat said the kingdom will not normalize relations with Israel or contribute to Gaza's reconstruction without a credible path to a Palestinian state — a nonstarter for Israel's government.

Prince Faisal bin Farhan's remarks in an interview with CNN broadcast late Sunday were some of the most direct yet from Saudi officials.

Israeli Prime Minister leaving the page." data-wf-tooltip-position="bottom">Benjamin Netanyahu — who faces mounting domestic pressure over the plight of Israeli hostages, including an angry protest inside a parliamentary committee meeting on Monday — has rejected Palestinian statehood and described plans for open-ended military control over Gaza.


The dispute over Gaza’s future — as the war rages with no end in sight — pits Israel against its top ally, the United States, as well as much of the international community, and poses a major obstacle to any plans for postwar governance or reconstruction of the impoverished coastal enclave that is home to 2.3 million Palestinians.

Before the Oct. 7 Hamas attack on Israel that triggered the war, the U.S. had been trying to broker a landmark agreement in which Saudi Arabia would normalize relations with Israel in exchange for U.S. security guarantees, aid in establishing a civilian nuclear program and progress toward resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In September, Netanyahu had said Israel was on “the cusp” of such a deal.

In the interview with “CNN’s Fareed Zakaria GPS,” the host asked: “Are you saying unequivocally that if there is not a credible and irreversible path to a Palestinian state, there will not be normalization of relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel?”

“That’s the only way we’re going to get a benefit,” Prince Faisal replied. “So, yes.”

Earlier in the interview, when asked if oil-rich Saudi Arabia would finance reconstruction in Gaza — where Israel's offensive has caused unprecedented destruction — Prince Faisal gave a similar answer.

“As long as we’re able to find a pathway to a solution ... then we can talk about anything,” he said. “But if we are just resetting to the status quo before Oct. 7, in a way that sets us up for another round of this, as we have seen in the past, we’re not interested in that conversation.”

The Palestinians seek a state that would include Gaza, the Israeli-occupied West Bank and annexed east Jerusalem, territories Israel captured in the 1967 Mideast war.

Israel views all of Jerusalem as its capital and the West Bank as the historical and biblical heartland of the Jewish people. It has built scores of settlements across both territories that are home to hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers. The last of several rounds of peace talks broke down nearly 15 years ago.

At a meeting about the war on Monday, European Union foreign ministers said the creation of a Palestinian state was the only way to achieve peace and expressed concern about Netanyahu’s rejection of the idea.

OVER 25,000 KILLED IN GAZA

The current war between Israel and Hamas — the fifth and by far deadliest — began when Palestinian militants broke through Israel's defenses and rampaged through several nearby communities, killing some 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and taking around 250 people hostage.

Israel's offensive has killed at least 25,295 Palestinians in Gaza and wounded more than 60,000, according to the Health Ministry in the Hamas-ruled territory. The ministry does not distinguish between civilians and combatants but says around two-thirds of those killed were women and children.

Medics reported heavy fighting in the southern city of Khan Younis, saying dozens of dead and wounded people were brought to the city’s already overwhelmed Nasser Hospital. Families could be seen fleeing south, to areas already packed with hundreds of thousands of displaced people.

The Israeli military says it has killed around 9,000 militants, without providing evidence, and blames the high civilian death toll on Hamas because it positions fighters, tunnels and other militant infrastructure in dense residential areas.

Some 85% of Gaza's people have fled their homes, seeking elusive shelter in the south as Israel continues to strike all parts of the besieged enclave. U.N. officials say one in four people in Gaza are starving as the fighting and Israeli restrictions hinder the delivery of humanitarian aid.

The war has also stoked tensions across the region, with Iran-backed groups in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen attacking Israeli and U.S. targets.

NETANYAHU UNDER MOUNTING PRESSURE

Netanyahu has vowed to continue the offensive until “complete victory” over Hamas and to return all of the remaining hostages after nearly half were released in a cease-fire deal in November.

But Israelis are increasingly divided on the question of whether it's possible to do both.

Hamas is believed to be holding the hostages in tunnels deep underground and using them as shields for its top leaders. Israel has only successfully rescued one hostage, while Hamas says several have been killed in Israeli airstrikes or during failed rescue operations. Those claims could not be independently confirmed.

On Monday, dozens of family members of the hostages stormed a committee meeting in Israel's Parliament, yelling: “You won’t sit here while they are dying there!”

Some had to be physically restrained as they shouted at the lawmakers, and at least one person was escorted out. The meeting was briefly suspended but later reconvened.

Relatives of the hostages, as well as other protesters, have set up a tent camp outside Netanyahu's residence in Jerusalem and vowed to remain until a deal is reached to bring the rest of the captives home. Other protests have called for new elections.

Hamas has said it will only free more captives in exchange for an end to the war and the release of thousands of Palestinian prisoners. Netanyahu has ruled out such an agreement.

The long-serving prime minister, whose popularity has plummeted since Oct. 7, faces pressure from the U.S. to shift to more precise military operations and do more to facilitate humanitarian aid.

But Netanyahu's governing coalition is beholden to far-right parties that want to step up the offensive, encourage the “voluntary” emigration of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from Gaza, and re-establish Jewish settlements there.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/saudi-arabias-top-diplomat-says-074041588.html

 

It's notable that the flurry over Israel's "war crimes" is reaching such a shrill level.
Where was the outrage when HAMAS was almost daily, for years, murdering Israeli citizens?
Where was their outrage when over 1,200 Israeli citizens were brutally raped, burned alive and otherwise murdered, men women and children by HAMAS?
Where is their outrage when we hear that HAMAS is using women and children as shields, putting their headquarters under schools and hospitals?
Where is their outrage that HAMAS still holds over 100 hostages, reportedly being raped and tortured daily?
Where is their outrage that HAMAS has declared that it only exists to destroy Israel and the west?

You'd think these geniuses were liberal despicables the way they can get so bunched up and shrill over one problem while ignoring, for years, the very things that brought this to a head.

Never waste a crisis, eh?

 

At the time Europe and the UK was in a mess,even with the US Marshall (thank you)plan it took years to recover . With Britain unwilling to do further policing. The only country with the resources to police was the USA but due from pressure of the electorate and of influential Jewish citizens they did not what to get involved in another war.

 

You add some things I have not thought much about. The US came out of World War II virtually unscathed. While much of the rest of the world was bombed to rubble. And the pro-Israel forces in the US were very powerful at the time and remain very powerful today. And it was easy for US leaders to bow to the Jewish lobby because we had no connection to Palestine. And probably a collective guilty conscience for turning away Jewish refugees and ignoring the death and concentration camps during World War II.

And the Zionists were very skilled liars. They kept pushing the lie that if the world would just give the Jewish people this little strip of land in the middle of the desert they would be happy and never ask for anything again. Just an incredible lie on multiple levels. The Zionists had no intention of existing in the original mandate. And Israel had had their hand out ever since pretty much telling the world and especially the US you owe us.

Which is why its kind of amazing to me to see so many in the US waking up to Israel's genocide and sacred terrorism now. That is a lot to over come. Because in at least for the 50 years that I have been watching if Israel gets any kind of criticism the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) will have 1,000 lobbyists on the streets within 24 hours. But now they don't have the same impact they have before.

 

HAMAS is the sworn enemy of both Israel and America.
They are devoted to destroying Israel and America.
They are brutal murderers.
They rape women, murder children in front of their parents, burn people alive, and take hostages to torture.

Israel is our one solid ally in a turbulent region of the world where so much evil exists.
They are a force to be reckoned with, and a force America can count on.
And they are just now taking the battle to HAMAS and beating them down into an ineffective political or military force.

We have to ask ourselves, what American patriot could find that so wrong?
The answer is, no American patriot would.
A traitor would, or someone so stupid they have to wear slip on shoes, or an enemy of America would, but the rest of the world would support and cheer Israel on for taking the fight to our enemy.

You know, pretty much like Ukraine is with Russia.

 

Look after, or divide the land and set up a puppet government??


Sounds like you don't even know the role your country played in this historic clusterfuck...


In July 1922 the Council of the League of Nations approved the British mandate for Palestine, including its preamble incorporating the Balfour Declaration and stressing the Jewish historical connection with Palestine. Article 2 made the mandatory power responsible for placing the country under such “political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish National Home…and the development of self-governing institutions.” Article 4 allowed for the establishment of a Jewish Agency to advise and cooperate with the Palestine administration in matters affecting the Jewish national home.

Article 6 required that the Palestine administration, “while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced,” under suitable conditions should facilitate Jewish immigration and close settlement of Jews on the land. Although Transjordan—i.e., the lands east of the Jordan River—constituted three-fourths of the British mandate of Palestine, it was, despite protests from the Zionists, excluded from the clauses covering the establishment of a Jewish national home. On September 29, 1923, the mandate officially came into force.

The Arabs in Jordan wanted nothing to do with this and did not wish to legitimize a situation they rejected in principle....

 

Gaza deaths surpass 25,000, officials say, in ongoing Israeli strikes
2024/01/21
Published
2024/01/21 21:12 (UTC)

The number of Palestinians killed in the Gaza Strip since the war between Israel and Hamas erupted on October 7 has passed 25,000, the health officials in the territory said on Sunday.

The number killed now stands at 25,105 and the number of injured at more than 62,680, the Hamas-run Health Ministry said.

Within 24 hours, 178 people had been killed in Israeli ground and air attacks on the coastal strip. The figures make no distinction between civilians and fighters.

Around 70% of those killed in Gaza are women and children, the ministry said.

The figures cannot be independently verified.

The war was triggered when around 1,200 people were killed by militants from Hamas and other extremist Palestinian organizations on October 7 in southern Israel.

Israel is vowing to keep fighting in Gaza until Hamas is completely crushed - but that goal could be a long way off.

The Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday that, according to an estimate by the US intelligence services, Israel has so far only succeeded in killing 20% to 30% of Hamas fighters in Gaza.

Washington believes that Hamas still has enough ammunition to continue attacking Israel and Israeli troops in Gaza for months to come, the report said.

According to US estimates, Hamas had between 25,000 and 30,000 fighters before the war, not including thousands of police officers.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has categorically ruled out the release of Israeli hostages on the terms of the Islamist Hamas.

In a video message published on Sunday, the Israeli leader said that he was working "around the clock" to free the more than 130 hostages still held by Hamas.

"But let's be clear: I reject in the strongest possible terms the terms of surrender of the Hamas monsters," he added.

"Hamas is demanding, in exchange for the release of our hostages, the end of the war, the withdrawal of our forces from Gaza, the release of the murders and rapists of the Nukhba [Hamas forces] and leaving Hamas in place," Netanyahu explained.

"Were we to agree to this – our soldiers would have fallen in vain. Were we to agree to this – we would not be able to ensure the security of our citizens. We would be unable to safely restore the evacuees to their homes and the next October 7 would be only a question of time."

"I am not prepared to accept such a mortal blow to the security of Israel; therefore, we will not agree to this," Netanyahu added.

Thousands of people demonstrated in Israel on Saturday against Netanyahu's governmemnt.

Participants at a rally in Tel Aviv demanded an immediate end to the war in Gaza in order to free the more than 100 hostages still held by Hamas.

"Stop the fighting, pay the price!" Israeli media quoted one of the speakers, whose cousin is among the hostages, as saying.

Following an initial exchange of 105 hostages for 240 Palestinian prisoners at the end of November, Hamas has said it won't release the remaining hostages abducted from southern Israel on October 7 until Israel's military withdraws from the Gaza Strip.

The Israel Defense Forces said on Sunday it had killed dozens of terrorists and found a large quantity of weapons during various operations in the Gaza Strip over the previous day.

At least two people were killed in southern Lebanon on Sunday in an attack by what was suspected to be an Israeli drone.

Security sources in Beirut told dpa that the object hit a vehicle in the village of Kafra, near the Israeli border.

According to the Lebanese television station Al-Arabija, those killed were members of the Shiite militant group Hezbollah. One of those killed is said to have been the bodyguard of a senior Hezbollah leader, who may have been the target of the attack.

The Israeli military did not initially comment on the incident.



https://nordot.app/1121910716340814644?c=592622757532812385

 

HAMAS propaganda faithfully brought to us by american hater.

No morals left, no credibility left, fuck ethics.

TWAT

 

Yes that is correct during WW1 the Arabs in that area fought alongside the British and commonwealth troops to remove the Turkish army from Palestine. We gave our word that the Arab's would be given self rule which we did in what is now Jordan and the occupied West Bank.The rest of the mandate was honoured. Until the end of WW2 when the Jews started a terror campaign against the UK in the mandate ,so we left and let them fight it out among themselves. Which is still going on today.....

 

It might take a while but I honestly believe the IDF being proud of their war crimes and apparently enjoying them is going to cost Israel more than Israel can afford to pay. Its time to name Israel a terrorist state.


ITV Cameraman Captures Gazan Civilian Shot and Killed Moments After Interview
David GilmourJan 24th, 2024, 6:38 am

An ITV News cameraman captured the moment an unarmed Gazan man was shot dead while part of a group holding a white flag just moments after the network’s journalists on the ground had interviewed him.

The video shows a group of men standing with their hands up and waving a white flag as they seek to evacuate their families from a building in Al Mawasi in southern Gaza, a former so-called “safe zone.” The victim, identified as Ramzi Abu Sahloul, had just spoken to ITV News explaining that he was trying to get his mother and brother out of the building.

Another of the group told reporters: “Nowhere is safe in Gaza. Everywhere you find the Israeli Army. They shoot us at home, in any building and in the street.”


Tragically, moments after the interview, Sahloul was shot.

As others attempted to carry his body to safety, the white flag, internationally recognised as a symbol of surrender or truce, was used to cover Sahloul’s fatal wounds. His wife was later seen mourning his loss.

The Israel Defence Forces (IDF), when approached by ITV News for comment, denied awareness of the incident. Questioned further, the IDF dismissed the video as “clearly edited” and refused to comment further.

The death toll in Gaza has risen to over 25,000 fatalities and 62,000 injured, as reported by the Gaza Health Ministry. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the campaign to dismantle Hamas and secure the return of all hostages will continue until completion.


https://www.mediaite.com/uk/itv-cam...an-waving-white-flag-moments-after-interview/

 

what propaganda are you referring to?

 

The IDF says we are God's children we do as we want if the Palestinians don't like it JUST PISS OFF to somewhere else .Us fat yids need you land to make us even richer.

 

The one thing I have noticed over the decades of watching Netanyahu is I don't think I have ever seen anyone better at derailing any kind of progress than he is. And a lot of times it makes no sense to me at all., Just like this. What sense does it make for Netanyahu to derail the progress in negotiations to release the hostages? If he doesn't like the deal then fine don't agree to it. But why would Netanyahu stab Qatar in the back while they were still trying to negotiate a deal. Maybe Netanyahu doesn't like Qatar to begin with but when it comes to a go between between Israel and Hamas they are the only game in town. And the only thing that makes sense is Netanyahu doesn't want a deal and does not care about the hostages. All he wants is the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. and will stab anyone in the back that he thinks might present that.

But one thing for sure this is a classic Netanyahu move. Never come right out and say it in public. Do the backstabbing in some tiny or even private setting knowing it will leak out. Sometimes even claiming he didn't say it or it was taken out of context. But just about everyone knows how he works and knows better than to believe him.




Qatar, a key mediator in sensitive Israel-Hamas talks, lashes out at Netanyahu over critical remarks
NAJIB JOBAIN, JACK JEFFERY and TIA GOLDENBERG
Updated Wed, January 24, 2024 at 10:24 PM MST·6 min read
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RAFAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — Qatar said it was appalled Wednesday by leaked remarks made by Israeli Prime Minister leaving the page." data-wf-tooltip-position="bottom">Benjamin Netanyahu in which he criticized the country’s mediation efforts with Hamas, complicating already arduous negotiations meant to halt the hostilities in exchange for a hostage release.

In a meeting with families of hostages held by Hamas, Netanyahu said Qatar’s role in the mediation was “problematic.” Qatar, a key mediator that also has deep ties to the militant group and hosts some of its exiled leaders, said Netanyahu’s remarks were “irresponsible and destructive.”

The public spat came as sensitive talks were underway in an effort to advance a potential agreement that might offer some respite in the devastating 3-month-old war. The fighting has killed more than 25,000 Palestinians, according to the Health Ministry in Hamas-run Gaza, displaced some 85% of the territory’s 2.3 million people and triggered a humanitarian catastrophe that has spread hunger, malnutrition and disease across the embattled coastal enclave.


As the diplomacy continued, fierce fighting still raged, especially in southern Gaza, where the United Nations said an Israeli tank strike on a U.N. facility killed at least nine people and wounded dozens.

Netanyahu has vowed to press ahead with the offensive until “complete victory” against Hamas, which started the war with its Oct. 7 assault across the border, killing some 1,200 people in Israel and abducting 250 others.

Israel says it is fighting in self-defense, but it faces charges that it is committing genocide at the U.N. world court at The Hague, which announced that it would issue a decision Friday on South Africa’s request for an interim order telling Israel to halt the hostilities.

A ‘PROBLEMATIC’ MEDIATOR

Qatar has been a critical link in negotiating efforts between Israel and Hamas.

In Netanyahu's leaked remarks, which were broadcast Tuesday on Israeli Channel 12 television, he also told the families that he has intentionally not thanked Qatar for its mediation efforts, claiming it could put more pressure on the Islamic militant group.

“Qatar in my opinion is no different, in essence, from the U.N. It is no different, in essence, from the Red Cross, and in some ways it is even more problematic,” he said. Israel views those organizations with suspicion, seeing them as biased against it and not helpful enough in securing the hostages’ freedom.

Netanyahu also said in the leaked audio that he had expressed anger at the United States for renewing a military base in the Gulf state. He said he told the Americans to put pressure on Qatar to put pressure on Hamas.

Qatar helped secure a weeklong truce in November in which over 100 hostages were released. It also is involved in efforts to broker a new deal to bring home the roughly 130 hostages that remain in captivity.

In a post on X, formerly Twitter, Qatar’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson Majed al-Ansari said his government was “appalled” by the reported remarks by Netanyahu but that they were “not surprising.”

“If the reported remarks are found to be true, the Israeli PM would only be obstructing and undermining the mediation process, for reasons that appear to serve his political career instead of prioritizing saving innocent lives, including Israeli hostages,” al-Ansari said.

Qatar, along with Egypt, is working on a new agreement that could set free more hostages. The White House’s Middle East envoy, Brett McGurk, was in Doha on Wednesday, National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby said. The visit came a day after McGurk met with officials in Egypt in hopes of establishing a temporary truce between Israel and Hamas.

But officials say the gap between the two sides is still wide, and the spat between Netanyahu and Qatar could rattle the negotiations.

FIGHTING RAGES IN SOUTHERN GAZA

Since the last truce ended in late November, fighting has intensified. The second-largest city of Khan Younis has been the latest focus of the war. The United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees, known as UNRWA, said at least nine people were killed when tank rounds struck a U.N. training center where 800 people were sheltering, according to the agency’s Gaza director, Thomas White.

The number of deaths was likely to climb, agency head Philippe Lazzarini wrote on X. He said the compound was clearly marked and its coordinates shared with Israeli authorities.

“Once again a blatant disregard of basic rules of war,” he wrote. The agency said the same site was also hit earlier in the week, killing six.

The military said it had “currently ruled out” that its aircraft or artillery had carried out the latest strike but was still investigating. Israel has accused Hamas of fighting near U.N. shelters and of endangering civilians by positioning fighters and militant infrastructure in dense residential areas.

Earlier Wednesday, Israel battled Palestinian militants outside of the city’s main Nasser Hospital, where medics said 850 patients and thousands of displaced people were trapped by the fighting because the surrounding roads were inaccessible or too dangerous.

Thousands of people fled south Tuesday from Khan Younis toward the town of Rafah on Tuesday. The U.N. says some 1.5 million people — around two-thirds of Gaza’s population — are crowded into shelters and tent camps in and around Rafah, which is on the border with Egypt.

Even there, Palestinians have found little safety, with Israel regularly carrying out strikes in and around the town. At least five people were killed when a strike hit a mosque Wednesday in Rafah, according to Associated Press journalists who viewed the bodies at a nearby hospital.

At least 210 Palestinians have been killed in the past 24 hours, bringing the total death toll from the war to 25,700, according to the Health Ministry. The agency’s count does not differentiate between civilians and combatants, but it says most of the dead are women and minors.

A TEMPORARY BUFFER ZONE

Hamas was still attacking Israeli forces, even in some of the most devastated areas, and firing rockets into Israel. An attack Monday near the border killed 21 Israeli soldiers as they were preparing explosives for a controlled demolition. It was the military’s biggest loss of life in a single attack since Oct. 7.

Israeli media said the troops were working to create an informal buffer zone about a kilometer (half a mile) wide along the border to prevent militants from attacking Israeli communities near Gaza. Two TV channels ran footage showing what appeared to be a controlled demolition of several structures near the border, which the broadcasters said was done in the area of the attack.

An Israeli government official said the country was considering the idea of a temporary buffer zone.

“In the context of demilitarizing Gaza, a temporary security buffer zone may be established,” the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity pending a formal decision.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/heavy-fighting-gazas-second-largest-085948492.html

 

I think Netanyahu has made it clear that he intends to annihilate Hamas, deport the Palestinians, reconquer Gaza, and open the area for Jewish settlement.

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The acquisition of new land and soil for the settling of the superfluous population has no end of advantages.

- Adolf Hitler, from Mein Kampf, Volume I, Chapter IV, "Munich"